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Vassor Doss
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 Posted - 24 Sep 2006 : 19:09:15
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Yeah, Eragon shows what influenical parents and lots of money can really do for a 15 year old author. 
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Golden_eyes
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 : 21:15:26
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...Well, I suppose he had to do something in his spare time since he graduated from home school at age 15...stupid overachievers...
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Vassor Doss
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USA
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 : 23:57:26
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Originally posted by Golden_eyes
...Well, I suppose he had to do something in his spare time since he graduated from home school at age 15...stupid overachievers...
“We pity him. We hate him. We fear him – all because there is a little of him in each of us, though we admit it to ourselves only in the darkest part of the night.”—Justarius
Again, influence and money. I did not mean to cause any angst.
Don't take it personal. I think the book is overly hyped. Had an adult written that book, it would not have received the press that it did.
And it may be a good book for all I know. Like I've said before, I couldn't get past all the "Star Wars" references and I never finished it. But your strong will in regards to this matter is making me reconsider.
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Golden_eyes
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 01:00:01
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Huh? I'm lost. Why would I take it personally? You’re perfectly right on the matter; if an adult had written the book, I don’t think it would have gotten all the publicity that it has. Nonetheless, I still feel that it is a good book, even though it is noticeably written by an author between the ages of 15 and 19... And I believe that it does develop into it’s own story later on, even though he borrowed from Star Wars and other big name titles for a basis. But remember that I did not say it was on par with DL or LOTR, etc., etc.
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MrStatesTheObvious
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USA
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 06:52:42
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I've read Eragon and I enjoyed it. It does borrow basic themes from other stories, but what novel doesn't. I hate to burst any bubbles, but Dragonlance is hardly original. It was a role-playing module brought to life. They took all kinds of tidbits from other sources - LOTR being the founding father of medieval companion campaigning. That being said, Weis and Hickman did a great job of taking all those established concepts and weaving them into a story and world that was different than what came before. They developed good characters and made something that was greater than the collection of parts.
I think that was the distinction some of us here were trying to make.
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saphire
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Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 08:05:09
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Personally i think if an adult had written it it wouldn't be so successful as it is approachable for younger people. Also, yes maybe influential parents can get a book published but they can't make people all over the world buy and enjoy it!
As has been said, what story/movie now-a-days doesn't borrow from others. It's pretty impossible not to!
I'm looking forward to the movie and apparantly it has been changed slightly so maybe they will have ironed out the kinks |
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Sirch
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Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 12:00:01
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Theres nothing groundbreaking with the book, but theres nothing about it thats bad or terrible. The story isnt something thats going to blow your mind but I cant find something thats terribly wrong with that.
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saphire
Starting Member
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Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 12:40:06
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| That what I think - it's good all solid story telling - it deserves the publicity |
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dragonlance_940
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 19:53:07
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ok i have not read d book yet but like some of ya'll have said it is REALLY hard 2 make a book that dos not match alittle 2 another....u would be better off trying 2 shit into a toilet wile standing on ur head.....*funny picture in my head now LOL* anyways i have read quite a few books and its hard not 2 say this matchs with this and that and so on.....there r just so may books out there with movies...and another good point 4 anyone that is getting up on this kids ass y dont u tell me how may books u have made that is in any book store? ok we wont do that so tell me where i can find ur book online???? look if he was able 2 get a book *and follow thought with the righting of the book for 5 years* and its now just not a book but a movie and i have heard a few things about a game comeing out 4 it...so unles u can tell me u have dont anything on a scale as that kid was able 2 at the age he had started to now then u really dont have that much room 2 talk...........*sorry 4 the long post lol*
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Vassor Doss
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Posted - 30 Nov 2006 : 04:47:07
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Originally posted by dragonlance_940
ok i have not read d book yet but like some of ya'll have said it is REALLY hard 2 make a book that dos not match alittle 2 another....u would be better off trying 2 shit into a toilet wile standing on ur head.....*funny picture in my head now LOL* anyways i have read quite a few books and its hard not 2 say this matchs with this and that and so on.....there r just so may books out there with movies...and another good point 4 anyone that is getting up on this kids ass y dont u tell me how may books u have made that is in any book store? ok we wont do that so tell me where i can find ur book online???? look if he was able 2 get a book *and follow thought with the righting of the book for 5 years* and its now just not a book but a movie and i have heard a few things about a game comeing out 4 it...so unles u can tell me u have dont anything on a scale as that kid was able 2 at the age he had started to now then u really dont have that much room 2 talk...........*sorry 4 the long post lol*
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My point is that there are many bright kids out there, but not all of them have parents that have the necessary funds to publish a book for them.
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dragonlance_940
Starting Member
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Posted - 30 Nov 2006 : 05:17:35
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not only that but that the kid had keep it up and made a book not like most of us who "try" 2 start one get so far and then stop....4get about the book and move on and never get back 2 it....if he was able 2 keep on righting it and not stopin and keep pushing him self 2 get 2 the end.....that is something that 99% of us will NEVER do so ****....ppl have alot 2 say and think they have alot of room 2 talk when they know NOTHING they never did it or even tryed to and know the trubles....
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graren
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Posted - 30 Nov 2006 : 06:16:33
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DL_940, It's not as hard to get published as you seem to think. I've been published a number of times. not full books no, but I have poems that I wrote several years back that have been printed, and reprinted a few times through the international house of poetry. some are curently scheduled to be printed again at the end of this year
http://poetry.com/Publications/display.asp?ID=P2015628&BN=999&PN=4
http://poetry.com/Publications/display.asp?ID=P2015628&BN=410&PN=3
http://poetry.com/Publications/display.asp?ID=P2015628&BN=999&PN=3
these aren't all, but I was in 8th-10th when I wrote them, these are the only ones I don't cringe at when I read them.
I dont think anyone is saying that a younger person isn't capible of writing good books. Hell, The Sword of Shannara was written by Terry Brooks when he was still in highschool. the complant is more that It's very generic and shows an adolesant with no experiance and little maturity trying to be an adult and also thinking he knows best and the adults who HAVE experiance letting him get away with it.
***EDIT*** for some reason, I'm haveing troubles posting a direct link, so just click on one of those links if you want to read any of my stuff, and search for Justin Banner. The only ones listed under my name that I can stand are "Black Death" "Life and Death" and "Fear" The others, I wrote before I was in highschool.
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Vassor Doss
Advanced Member
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Posted - 30 Nov 2006 : 23:29:23
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Originally posted by dragonlance_940
not only that but that the kid had keep it up and made a book not like most of us who "try" 2 start one get so far and then stop....4get about the book and move on and never get back 2 it....if he was able 2 keep on righting it and not stopin and keep pushing him self 2 get 2 the end.....that is something that 99% of us will NEVER do so ****....ppl have alot 2 say and think they have alot of room 2 talk when they know NOTHING they never did it or even tryed to and know the trubles....
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I don't care if a kid writes a fantasy novel or an adult does. Why would I, or any one else for that matter, even compare myself to Paolini anyway? What matters to me is the quality of the book. Just because a 15 year old wrote it doesn't make the plot of the story better. Who cares that he's a teen? The book has so much publicity only because he's so young. I'm sick of the excuse that since he was only 15 we should cut him some slack for the mediocre story. What has age got to do with anything? Why is it that everytime "Eragon" is mentioned, Paolini's age is mentioned? You never see an interview with Margaret Weis stating something like--DOAT written my Margaert Weis and Tracy Hickman, ages 58 and 51 respectively. Age has no influence on how I spend my money on books.
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MrStatesTheObvious
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 : 09:01:41
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Originally posted by dragonlance_940
not only that but that the kid had keep it up and made a book not like most of us who "try" 2 start one get so far and then stop....4get about the book and move on and never get back 2 it....if he was able 2 keep on righting it and not stopin and keep pushing him self 2 get 2 the end.....that is something that 99% of us will NEVER do so ****....ppl have alot 2 say and think they have alot of room 2 talk when they know NOTHING they never did it or even tryed to and know the trubles....
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I find it more than a little ironic that the most hardcore defenders of Paolini and his books type like this.
As for getting on to writing a book, have you ever heard of NaNoWriMo, which was just last month? Thousands of people get together to write an entire novel in one month, and quite a few people actually finish it.
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dragonlance_940
Starting Member
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 : 13:52:13
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well like i have said i never read the book my self so i cant say if its good or not but it had seemed like u all where getting onto the kids ass 4 they way he had worte the stroy and from what i am being told the format of it "and then he said" and not they way we r use 2day so there could of been a few things changed but anyways....dude ur work from as far as i saw where not bad at all but i have 2 say theres this one i LOVE 2 read over and over but i need 2 find it so i will jump onto google and c if i can look it up so i dont have 2 type it out...and i will look into a few others u got on that site as well but lets go look 4 this now be back in like a min *but i dont think that will matter lol*
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